I've been deconstructing the Surfette interaction, and as I saw her of a kind with The Cuban and The Liberal, I've been looking into what happened between them.
I didn't tell you the story of what actually happened.
I texted Surfette on July 7 or 8, after a fair number of her suggestions that I come out there, that I would be out on July 19. Her texted response: "Wow. Ok. Game on."
That surprised me. We had a bit of witty banter back and forth about her picking me up at the airport, and then on the 15th, she called to say she'd likely have to work on the weekend I was there, but I should still come anyway assuming I had other friends to see, which I did. I figured something was up, but who cares? I'm blinded at this point by a woman with a strong, good personality.
So I flew out and she picked me up at the airport and we got promptly lost in Inglewood. I pulled out my iPhone and found our way to her place where we had a beer on her roof overlooking the city and Venice Beach. Went downstairs to get into bed, and here's where the needle starts to come off - she got into pajamas, told me how weird it was that she was in pajamas, but got all uncomfortable. This whole time I'm deferential and basically spineless. My big mistake.
The next day we wake up, go about our day, hang out, have breakfast, talk a lot, get to know one another, and damn, she's really way cooler than I'd realized. The day winds on, she helps me shop, we go to the beach, we go to several parties, we get totally wasted, and as we're walking back to her place, I get tired of pussyfooting around so I throw her into some hedges and start kissing on her. She makes happy surprised noises and we scamper back to her place for a night of sex.
Wake up in the morning, go to the beach, wander LA a bit, go back to the beach, and she's already told me that I'm booted that night because she's got events that she's going to solo [we think she has a boyfriend now - Ed] but that's fine and when we get back to her place about 4 hours later than she wanted to, more sex.
I leave her to dress and when she comes out of her bedroom, it's completely cold and remains that way to this day.
Now, I've been giving it a great deal of thought (nobody, least of all me, likes rejection) and what I've basically come to is that I was too "nice" and not nice as in polite and such, as in deferential. Yes, I committed my own cardinal sin, and I know it.
After the jump, an instant message conversation I had with the Liberal in September of 2003 which I found this morning when looking for something else. It completely and utterly summed up my feelings on "nice" and what I think happened here.
I'm not telling this well, and perhaps when I have more distance I can do better. But if you're into reading chat transcripts, this transcript is a whole gold-mine of things not to do when you're totally into someone but it's the beginning of a relationship. The problem with puppy love is that you act like a puppy, and women worth anything don't want to date a puppy, they want to date a man.
It's also true that women will tell you what the problem is much more than men will - as if they're almost rooting for you to listen to them and fix the problem so you can stay together. And by "you" I clearly mean "me."
This IM conversation was within the first two months of knowing The Liberal.
AIM Direct IM with The Liberal.
9/24/03, 10:34 PM
The Liberal: what's doing?
10:35 PM
Bad Man: gearing up to ro.ll. [Rollerblade -ed]
The Liberal: cool
The Liberal: jealous
11:25 PM
Bad Man: back
Bad Man: have presents for you.
The Liberal: happY?
Bad Man: happier yes.
The Liberal: more presents? not just the battery charger?
Bad Man: needed that.
Bad Man: more presents.
The Liberal: cool.
The Liberal: i like presents.
Bad Man: I'm glad.
The Liberal: i just hung up with my college boyfriend. he is getting married. well, got engaged.
Bad Man: another one bites the dust.
The Liberal: has been dating the same girl ever since i ended things, like 8 years ago. they ought to get married by now.
The Liberal: he's coming on sunday.
11:30 PM
The Liberal: he said he is glad i am out of my exboyfriend land. we haven't spoken in forever, like 2 years. it feels like a few weeks. wierd
Bad Man: very weird.
The Liberal: i am just in such niceness now. with everyone.
Bad Man: totally. I'm glad to be a party to it.
Bad Man: It's so nice to watch and be a part of in some small way.
11:35 PM
The Liberal: please bring your camera and use it on sunday
Bad Man: of course.
The Liberal: getting back to me and greed, what kind of presents?
Bad Man: ha.
Bad Man: greedy girl.
Bad Man: you'll find out when I give them to you.
Bad Man: I think they'll make you happy. Probably disappointed because we've inflated them to some big mystery, but they'll make you happy anyway.
The Liberal: photshop and final cut?
Bad Man: maaaaaybe
The Liberal: flowers?
Bad Man: [well, probably not final cut]
Bad Man: maaaaybe
11:40 PM
Bad Man: I can give you a photoshop book.
Bad Man: that I can do.
The Liberal: yeah? more presents!!!!!
Bad Man: good lord. I don't _give_ presents to girls. What's wrong with this situation?
The Liberal: thank god because everyone i know, when i tell them my largest hesitation about you is niceness, they agree that niceness is evil. even though my friends and i all love each other, we are mean people.
Bad Man: that I'm nice to you is your biggest hestitation?
Bad Man: that's amusing.
The Liberal: when i told my friend last night that you are nice, he was like, ouch. he said there should be a sticker, nice people suck.
The Liberal: this is not a big concern. but i like to tell the pros and cons when i report on someone, you know
Bad Man: I think we may have to break up. I'm not a nice guy. if I'm being nice to you, you're obviously corrupting me into something I'm not.
The Liberal: i told that you usually treat girls like trash. that made him happier.
11:45 PM
Bad Man: very strange. When you say nice, in my case - are you using that as a euphamism for spineless?
The Liberal: i am not taking any responsiblity for your niceness.
The Liberal: um. i don't think so. sometimes, maybe, you are willing to compromise and it surprises me.
The Liberal: sometimes you tell bad bad jokes but that is another issue.
Bad Man: that's something else entirely.
The Liberal: and your politics...that actually bothers me more than the niceness.
The Liberal: the politics.
Bad Man: you've been giving this a lot of thought lately.
The Liberal: niceness, is actually nice.
The Liberal: nope. .i
The Liberal: i've been talking to old friends i haven't seen in years and they ask for all the goods and bads. that's how we talk
Bad Man: ok
The Liberal: and yes, the politics thing still prevents me from being 100%. i am uncomfortable with something. is it okay to say that, Bad Man?
Bad Man: So I'm a nice conservative who tells bad jokes? I'm jerry seinfeld.
Bad Man: yes.
Bad Man: what are you uncomfortable with?
Bad Man: _some_thing or the politics themselves?
The Liberal: he tells good jokes. actually
Bad Man: yeah, he does.
The Liberal: a bit of some things, a bit of the politics.
11:50 PM
Bad Man: you're right.
Bad Man: about that.
The Liberal: mostly i feel wierd about what i told you before.
The Liberal: by month 3 of a relationship, i don't want to have to think about anything more than that, and in this case, month 3 has to get postponed until next summer and that is wierd. it is wierd, isn't it?
Bad Man: it is weird.
The Liberal: and as much as i like you and say mushy things sometimes, it freaks me out when you say them.
Bad Man: Tough. Sometimes you make me feel mushy.
The Liberal: like just marry me now isn't really a marraige proposal, but that is 'nice' and it gives me the creeps a little, even if i understnad the momentary sentiment post sex and good weekends.
Bad Man: it's neither a marriage proposal nor was it nice. It was a gesture saying that I'd had a lovely time and I'm sorry to see it coming to an end.
The Liberal: and i appreciate that you emote.
The Liberal: why an end?
The Liberal: or the end of a phase?
Bad Man: the weekend.
The Liberal: oh
11:55 PM
The Liberal: marry me now so the weekend never ends?
The Liberal: hee hee
Bad Man: caught up in a moment. won't let that happen again.
The Liberal: no. you can, it just creeps me out.
The Liberal: for unspecified reasons.
The Liberal: unspecified to me.
Bad Man: "Feel free to give me the heeebie jeebies if you'd like."
The Liberal: (i am not talking and my damn head has a bubble next to it)
Bad Man: every time you start typing and stop it pops the cloud and disappears.
Bad Man: wobble wobble.
The Liberal: i am doing a magic trick. poof
Bad Man: something like that.
Bad Man: stop that!
The Liberal: it's really funny. i'm cracking up.
The Liberal: because i'm mean
Bad Man: since when is being retarded mean?
The Liberal: i am doing it to annoy you. that's mean.
The Liberal: ha
Bad Man: and here I thought you were doing it because you couldn't think of anything to say.
The Liberal: i am so funny
Bad Man: your sense of humor needs a tune up.
The Liberal: super jerk
Bad Man: eh.
The Liberal: ps my battery is depleting.
The Liberal: i am going to keep it plugged in and see what happens. genius at apple says 'fluctuating from 95% to 100% is normal. some can't hold a charge" let's see if it goes any lower. i'm at 98
The Liberal: new things should hold charges
12:00 AM
The Liberal: i think i better go back to being productive for awhile, away from the computer.
The Liberal: stay on, i'll check back.